How to disable Messenger (Messaging) in Outlook.com
Last week, Microsoft announced (yet another) rebrand of Hotmail to Outlook.com. It has received plenty of favourable reviews and praise but one feature is extremely annoying – and that is, like the Windows 8 Metro Windows 8-style UI Messaging application, it automatically logs you into Messenger and connected services (Facebook Chat) when you sign in, with no ability to log off instant messaging except for setting your status to “invisible”. (Side note: Windows 8 Messaging now thankfully has a global off switch added into its settings since the Release Preview.)
I’m sure there are people who don’t mind this – perhaps they don’t use instant messaging or they keep webmail open all the time anyway (in fact you get a small bonus feature if you do). I personally use the actual Outlook desktop application and only use webmail when I’m away from my own PC, so I’m not too keen to be speaking of people when I’m just trying to quickly access my email from other locations.
So I looked for a way to disable this from happening and after rummaging through the options unsuccessfully, some searches to see if anyone else had already figured it out, I started looking through the code, and found the key: geo.messenger.services.live.com geo.gateway.messenger.live.com (changed December 2012).
So to disable Outlook.com’s Messaging feature, all one has to do is block this host and the easiest way to do this is to add it to your hosts file. If you’re not sure how to do this or want to save time, I’ve made a quick tool for Windows users below which you can easily run to automatically add (or remove) blocking this host. To make this change yourself manually, you find yourself on a machine without administrator rights, or you use another operating system, see Other Options below.
Download the Disable Outlook.com Messaging tool
Using the tool
To start, download the Disable Outlook.com Messaging tool, open the zip file, and run the application inside. You’ll be prompted for administrator rights so the tool can make modifications to your hosts file, and then you’ll receive a message indicating the change has been made. Please note you’ll need to restart your browser to see the change.
To remove the entry in the hosts file, run the tool again, the messenger entry will be removed and you’ll receive a message notifying you as such.
If required, you can use the /q command line parameter to avoid seeing the notification messages that the change has been added or removed.
After the change
Once the hosts file entry has been added, when you click Messaging in Outlook.com, you will see an attempt to sign in but it never will be successful:

No known side effects (so far)
I’ve tested this change for a number of days now and saw no noticeable problems in Windows Live Messenger 2009, 2011 or Windows 8 Messaging or related software. In fact, even the Outlook.com Messaging history still seems to work (albeit sporadically). If you believe you’ve found something else which uses this host, run the tool again or remove the entry manually and please comment so we can all be made aware of it.
Other options
If you wish to add the entry to the hosts file yourself and use Windows, press the Start button (if you use Windows XP, click the Run option) and type:
notepad %systemroot%\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
then press Ctrl-Shift-Enter to start Notepad with administrator rights. Once Notepad starts, add the following line:
0.0.0.0 geo.gateway.messenger.live.com
Then close Notepad and save. Now just restart your browser to see the change.
If you’re on a Windows machine without the ability to get administrator rights, such as a work setup or library and there is an available version of Internet Explorer available, commenter qiang reminded me that you can use the Restricted Sites zone to block specific hosts like this one. To do so, after starting Internet Explorer, press the Alt key on the keyboard to bring up the menu bar, choose Tools, then Internet Options, then the Security tab, choose Restricted sites and finally press the Sites button. In the ‘Add this website to the zone:’ box, type geo.messenger.services.live.com and choose Add. Then click Close, and OK in the remaining open options windows. If outlook.com is already open, sign out outlook.com and sign back in to see the change.
If you’re using another operating system, the How-To Geek has tutorials for both Ubuntu Linux and OS X (the Windows one is missing the fact you need to start Notepad in Administrator mode if you’re following this guide).
Additionally, you could use firewall software to block outgoing connects to this hosts. Unfortunately the built-in Windows firewall only supports IP addresses and since these can change, it isn’t too useful for the purposes of blocking this.
Final notes
As modifying the hosts file requires administrator rights, this probably won’t be successful on machines you might use when you’re out and about. Of course, the best solution would be for Microsoft to add this feature into Outlook.com itself and in fact, the web messenger in Hotmail initially didn’t allow you to log out either but the feature was added later on. I certainly have no idea why is was deemed unimportant to be included in the current release of Outlook.com and it seems many of you agree with me.
Thanks, buddy =)
Good job dude… I don´t know why MS want all people connected.. some dirty razon must be…
anyway, here´re iu to kick his ass!
You sir, are an absolute genius!
Thanks! They should make it eaiser to turn off web messenger. It logged me into many “places” after going back and ford on outlook.com. I blocked ‘geo.messenger.services.live.com’ on IE and it worked too. On IE, go to Tools -> Internet options -> Security tab -> Select Restricted sites -> Click Sites button -> Enter geo.messenger.services.live.com then click Add.
Greetings – excellent idea! Thanks. I forgot all about that function in IE. This also has the added bonus of working without admin rights. I hope you don’t mind, but I’ve added that into the post since I think this is a great option to have.
Sadly I am prevented by my workplace’s sysadmin from adding sites to Restricted Sites – but I am still allowed to open Outlook and be annoyed by people messaging me! Silly inconsistency, even if the main fault is Microsoft’s.
Greetings Chris. Hm, there might be some other ways, depending on what’s in your workplace’s group policy. The restricted sites is really just a registry key in your profile, so I made a .reg file you can download and attempt to import. However, I suspect that might be blocked too, so I threw together some old code to make a quickie application that will do the same thing, which you can find here. For best results, I would shut down IE before trying this, then restarting it after you’ve gotten the registry key in there.
works for me, i have no idea why microsoft put this crap out without testing it on real people, it signs me out of MSN which i leave open all the time to pickup my emails, it annoys me and annoys my contacts as they see me logging in a lot.
one thing i noticed is that safari (my browser) gives a certificate error saying the site geo.blahblahmicrosoft.com cannot be verified. if i try to click on the messenger thing and load it up.
Greetings mooseflaps. Only more recent versions of Messenger (2009 and above on the Windows side) support signing in from multiple locations, but if you’re using other clients, they may not have this support and only will allow one login at one time (including from the web).
Additionally, if you’re getting a certificate error, your root certificates might need updating or the date/time could simply be wrong on your PC.
Of course the easiest thing is just to stop it from logging in (as I’m sure you’ve already done now)
may i know why my comment was removed? I wrote that some changes were made and now this trick working with new settings: 0.0.0.0 x2fgeo.messenger.services.live.com The line 0.0.0.0 geo.messenger.services.live.com. which is described above already didnt work for me , couple of days ago. So i checked the source and found out the change. It may help to some people. Regards.
Greetings nemo. Your comment wasn’t deleted, you just haven’t posted here before and you need to be approved by me to post first (and I’m just a bit behind with blog comments).
I appreciate the effort here and certainly welcome any changes but I’m going to have to disagree with your findings. For my accounts anyway, the existing entry is working fine and the code still looks identical. I do however see what you’re seeing with the x2f part here:
<![CDATA[var WIMP='\x2f\x2fgeo.messenger.services.live.combut this isn’t a new URL, the \x2f is javascript escape hex encoding – the \x2f translates to a forward slash / so it’s truly saying WIMP=//geo.messenger.services.live.com. See here to see how that works.
Additionally, if you try to resolve x2fgeo.messenger.services.live.com, it doesn’t even exist as a subdomain – so you are blocking something that doesn’t exist. Of course there’s no harm in doing so if you really want to.
thanks, but i noted this change, when the first option stopped working for me and suddenly messenger appeared online. When i changed for x2fgeo…. then i got the result back. Meanwhile, can you help with the same for yahoo ? thanks
Thanks it worked !!!!!!!……..but how do you undoi it if you want to go back to original way ?
Greetings Dom. If you used the tool, just run it again to go back. If you did it manually, just remove the line in the hosts file.
Holy cow, thanks a lot man. It took me a while to realize those sudden disconnections in Pidgin happened when I opened Outlook.com. And, once I knew this, I googled the problem and yours is the only place that even mentions the problem. I’ll buy you a beer in another life
Thanks, Jonathan. I hate that thing, but it seems to be even worse this time – I was seeing bits of Messenger conversation popping up in front of my hotmail which didn’t ever appear in my main Messenger window or in the history.
Outlook.com seems to have another quirk. While I was trying to find the missing button I accessed the link to my ‘Billing’ page and a “Thanks for helping us verify your Microsoft account!” confirmation code email sent to my secondary email address. Tried again to make sure it wasn’t just an accidental click or finger-trouble or something, and got another one.
Muchas gracias mi amigo, super genial tu información y tu pequeña aplicación, me salvaste de un gran frustración, recibe un cordial saludo desde Mexico.
Thanks a lot!! This worked for me!
Great tool! Thanks!!!
Thank you SO much!! Worked like a charm..
As of this morning, this fix does not work anymore. At least for me. I’ve checked the hosts file and the entry is still listed, but when I log into Outlook, Messenger connects. geo.messenger.services.live.com; perhaps they’ve changed this?
Greetings Dave. This is still working for me when I checked it yesterday and then again today on a brand new machine.
Maybe your browser cached what it needed or you were connected to something that let it resolve?
Thanks for getting back to me… I can’t see why it’s connecting. I ran CCleaner to make sure everything is cleared out. What is REALLY strange is that I have 2 Hotmail accounts, one connects within a few seconds, and the other doesn’t connect at all, although it tries. On the account that connects, I notice slight differences in the way the page looks, like they made some slight updates. The account that doesn’t connect still looks like the first version did before the 28th. When this new Outlook launched, there was a lag in when the second account changed over to the new format. Not sure if there was an update that changed the URL slightly on some accounts? Just really annoying.
Interesting. Maybe they’re doing Google’s trick where they deploy small updates to see how people react to the changes.
Although this may or not immediately show what’s going on, but if you want, in either IE9+ or Chrome, hit F12 when you start your browser to bring up the dev tools, then choose the Network tab (in IE you’ll have to click Start capturing), and then login to Outlook.com with the account where it doesn’t work. You might be able to figure out the change by just eyeballing the URLs.
Normally, the main giveaway is https://geo.messenger.services.live.com/actions/signin/.
Hey Jonathan… I think I found it. Took a look at the Network tab in Chrome and found this… “geo.gateway.messenger.live.com” I put it into my hosts file and now auto-login just keeps trying to connect with no success. I’ll let you know if all other Outlook functions remain unaffected.
Thanks!
He’s right. Web messenger has gone back to signing in automatically even though it was working fine until a few days ago. I even tried to add the extra line to the hosts file. No change.
Hey Az. I made a new account to see if that would help, but still no luck – the block is still working for me.
It’s a stretch, but it might be helpful to know which country and browser you’re using since that could possibly be a factor.
I’d be happy to go one-on-one via Skype/teamviewer/whatever to see if we can figure this out together.
So far, so good… I’ve used it for a day now and all other functions of Outlook are still unaffected, I still even get messaging history from Messenger.
I used it for almost a week but today this hack does not work anymore
Greetings Dan. As you’ve probably already noted in the comments here, it looks like Microsoft has been rolling out an update that changes the host. I wasn’t able to reproduce it, but Dave here in the comments was able to figure out the new host, geo.gateway.messenger.live.com.
I’ve updated the tool with the new host, so if you could re-download and run it again to add the new entry and give it a try, that would be great.
Thanks. It worked.
Stopped working for me today, anyone else?
Greetings jone. As you’ve probably already noted in the comments here, it looks like Microsoft has been rolling out an update that changes the host. I wasn’t able to reproduce it, but Dave here in the comments was able to figure out the new host, geo.gateway.messenger.live.com.
I’ve updated the tool with the new host, so if you could re-download and run it again to add the new entry and give it a try, that would be great.
Thanks Dave! Working for me as well. Just changed “0.0.0.0 geo.messenger.services.live.com” to “0.0.0.0 geo.gateway.messenger.live.com” in the hosts file.
Props for Dave and whoever else helped figuring out the URL “geo.gateway.messenger.live.com” blocking it definitely get rid of the pathetic mess Microsoft has put us all into without having our say in it… Just wanted to mention it even works at FireFox all you need is Adblock Plus Extension and here’s the tiny walkthrough hope it helps,
Firefox > Add-ons > Adblock Plus 2.2.1 > Filter Preferences… > Custom Filters > Add Filter Group > Provide Name > Right Click @Provided Name > Show/Hide Filters > Add Filters > Provide URL: geo.gateway.messenger.live.com that’s all!
Good Luck!
& Screw you Microsoft
Many thanks for the FF fix!!!
worked a charm. thanks
my problem was after logging into my primary hotmail (now outlook) account, i’d switching to another, i got signed out of the (non-msn) messenger client i was using for the secondary account.
your solution works a charm – so long as i dont try and open the web messenger dialogue
hmmm… take that back.. works at the start, but after a minute or so logs me out
IS THERE ANY TOOL TO ENABLE OUTLOOK INSTANT MESSENGING…!I USED THAT TOOL AND HOST FILES REMOVED BUT STILL MY OUTLOOK MSG SHOWS SIGNING IN BUT NEVER SUCCESSFULL. I WANT TO GET BACK INSTANT MESSEGING…!PLZ REPLY SOON
Greetings Malik. I know this sounds silly, but have you simply rebooted? If it still doesn’t work, let me know.
i rebooted !actually before using ur tool i had this problem (my messenger didnt show my freinds status.it just showed signing in ……but with no success….! even the (Availble option is showing disabled…i cant enable it…i checked my host file…removed that geo gate away….etc……..i just want to enable this chat…….here is the link for screenshots…
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2DC04255296AE5B!223&authkey=!ADSxOvCw3kZlj74
plz solve or create a tool for enabling my chat…i m really worried about my account…
Thnkz in advance
Oh I see, it doesn’t have anything to do with blocking the host since it wasn’t working in the first place.
Your screenshot indicates that you can sign out and sign into another account and it works? That certainly does sound like an account problem but there is a possibility that it could be related to cookies stored just for your account. How about clearing out the cookies and cache in Chrome and trying again? To do this quickly, you could just open up incognito mode and test there if you want. You could also try in IE if you haven’t already.
I don’t suppose you’ve tried on another computer too?
I tried incongito mode + clearing out cookies and cache…in chrome…i tried firefox,opera,I.E 10 but still having this problem…However when my sister signs in with her account…Every Thing is fine for her…I am now even having problem dat when i sign in to office it automatically signsout after two three days and asks me to sign in back in order to access Skydrive or Windows Mail in my windows 8…I have given permission to Outlook Moderators but those damn people couldnt solve it….Do u think dat my account is some how blocked by Microsoft…..or wat ever..???
Any Help…
Hey Malik. I was wondering if this was still an issue. I’m going to have to assume like you have that there is something specifically wrong with your account if that’s the case unfortunately.
It will be fairly difficult to get them to fix given they’re planning to kill Messenger in a matter of weeks – those “Outlook Moderators” (which are actually outsourced support as far as I know) can’t do a whole lot in my experience.
Excelente amigo… gracias desde mi Ecuador!!
Excellent friend … thanks from my Ecuador!
Favourable reviews? Those people must have been high. I’m a 25 year old guy with every gadget under the sun, and even I’m not stupid enough to want messenger in my hotmail account. I’m also not stupid enough just to accept something and say its a godsend just cause it’s new.
Thank you so much! That automatic sign in was highly annoying! I made changes to Notepad and logged back in and voila, not signed in
Thank you very much, I downloaded the msn but not how to use the camera, it has the same settings as before and when I try to do the video calling option is censored and unable to use
Greetings Maria. If the Video Call is grayed out or has disappeared, it is because your contact you’re trying to call is using Skype. You both need to be using Messenger to use Video Call.
Thank you for this little tool. Saved my life.
Microsoft just never fails to amaze me how can they annoy their users. They can’t even copy few things properly from their competitors.